Thursday, 23 February 2012

Dhul Qarnain-Ruler Of The East And The West


make cashmake cashWeb author Marki H Meer is of the view that Dhul Qarnain,the great ruler of the east and the west ended his first leg of voyage after crossing Strait of Gibraltar.
Here around

Morocco,Western Sahara,Mauritania,Spain,Portugal,France,etc he spreaded 
"The Great Message".
Right now we are in beta phase.
 Possible route of Dhul Qarnain
In this post we will keep our attention focused on the possible route of Dhul Qarnain  http://www.shiachat.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/as.gif from Egypt to Kiribati Islands thousands of years ago,via a place from where he viewed the Sun setting in the west.(Where first leg of his journey ended)Remember the country of commencement of travel is Yemen and country of destination is (TARAWA)Kiribati Islands (Where the second leg of his journey ended).
Move with the sun (in the direction of the sun) and NOT against the sun.
This is the basic idea of our possible route. Thousands of years ago Dhul Qarnain started moving towards  the West with the movement/direction of the sun.Thus his back was towards the east and he in the beginning  was moving away and away from east but more close  and close to the west.
He was  narrowing the gap between him and the place where the sun was setting in.Thus he was moving towards the place where the sun was setting in.Hence there is every possibility that during the journey soon he will arrive at the place from where he viewed the setting in of the sun.
  • Advantages of moving in the direction of the sun.The days will be "Long" and nights will be "short". When the duration of the day will increase you can make best use of day light.
  • The sun over or around your head will motivate you.It will keep you enthusiastic and ambitious.
  • Your movement in the direction of the sun will help you a lot in navigation. 
  • If you keep on moving in the direction of the west,soon you will be at the farthest point from the east.Here at this point /line you will infect  exit Eastern Hemisphere (East).Now you will be at the point where west starts. 
Now what our route is?From Egypt to Kiribati Islands (Tarawa) he traveled partially by sea and partially by land.However his long journey was mainly by sea.Hence we will discus the same.
From Egypt to Kiribati Islands (Tarawa) he voyaged in the direction of the west along the coastal line of modern Egypt,Libya,Algeria,and Morocco.When he arrived at "ORAN" (City of Algeria)he was about to exit Eastern Hemisphere.When he crossed the Strait of Gibraltar he was absolutely out of the eastern hemisphere.Now he was in the west.To be more precise he was at the junction of the east and the west.he was at the point/line where east has ended and west has started.
This event (The crossing of Strait of Gibraltar) is very important).Now he was at the junction of two continents.The Europe and the Africa.He was at the union of two "diverse sets of civilizations".
Here some where around the strait of Gibraltar thousands of miles away in the west he viewed the sun setting in.

Saturday, 18 February 2012

The Great Voyage Of The Ruler Of The East And West

Thousands of years ago were North America and South America connected with each other
by a sea passage?
Did the great ruler of the west and the east entered in to the Pacific Ocean
around Panama or around Costa Rica?
Please find out the answers to these questions.
C ya.
):):)
Have a nice day.
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In this post we will keep our attention focused on the possible route of Dhul Qarnain  http://www.shiachat.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/as.gif from Egypt to Kiribati Islands,via a place where the Sun was drowning/setting in.(Where first leg of his journey ended)Remember the country of commencement of travel is Egypt and and country of destination is Kiribati Islands (Where the second leg of his journey ended).
Our taskFind out different possible routes from Egypt to Kiribati Islands via a place where the Sun was setting in.You may design any route no matter if it is long or short.The route may be by air,partially by land and partially by sea or entirely by sea  and entirely by land.
The popular and more acceptable route these days.The believers of this idea are of the view that his first leg of journey ended in Maldives.Maldives is the setting place of the sun where he found people.......From Maldives he moved ahead and then reached Kiribati Islands.(The rising place of the Sun).Here in Kiribati Islands he found the Sun rising on the people for whom We (Allah)had appointed no shelter there from.
Do you think this is acceptable?Right now we are in the beta phase. 
  • Dhul Qarnain was the ruler of the West as well.He ruled The West with the same authority as that of the East.He was the ruler of the East and the West.
Does this theory tells us that he traveled in the West and established his authority?
  • Maldives is in the South East.If from Egypt you travel in this direction you are becoming closer and closer to the East.Thus you will see East first.If i am not in the wrong you will see the "Sun rising in the East".
Do you agree with this idea that if you travel towards (Maldives) south East you will meet East west?
  • If your movement is in the direction of Maldives you will move "Against the Sun"you will not get enough time for work.You will have to spend a lot of time in the darkness.
Do you think if you move "Against" the Sun the duration of the day will "decrease" and the duration of the nite will "Increase?"
Let me ask you the same question in a different way. 
Do you think the nights will be long and the days will be short?
Now what is my theory?
My idea is very simple.
From Egypt he moved "With the Sun and NOT against the Sun."
Before i elaborate my view point any further let me draw your attention to wards a poetry.Ancient poetry.I by chance found this while surfing.You will be surprised how this supports my idea (which apparently looks difficult to understand)

Ibn Ishaq has recorded many per-islamic Arabic poems in the "SIRA" .One of his poem is about Dhul Qarnain.
  • Ibn Ishaq believed that this poem was composed by a pre_Islamic king of ancient Yemen and his name was  Tubba'.
    Now please enjoy this little poem and see how it "supported" my idea "long long ago".

    Dhu’l-Qarnayn before me was a Muslim
    Conquered kings thronged his court,
    " East and West" he ruled", yet he sought
    Knowledge true from a learned sage.
    He saw where the Sun sinks from the view
    In a pool of mud and fetid slime
    Before him Bilqis [Queen of Sheba] my father's sister
    Ruled them until the hoopoe came to her.

    Thanks Answering Islam
    Source: http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/pre-islamic_hanifs.htm

    Here is one more by Hassan ibn Thabit 

    Thanks wikipedia

                                                      
    Ours the realm of Dhu 'l-Qarnayn the glorious
    Realm like his was never won by mortal king.
    "Followed "he the Sun" to view its setting
    When it sank into the somber ocean-spring;
    Up he clomb to see it rise at morning,
    From within its Mansions when the East it fired;
    All day long the "horizons" led him "onward",
    All night through he watched the stars and never tired.
    Then of iron and of liquid metal
    He prepared a rampart not to be o'erpassed,
    Gog and Magog there he threw in prison
    Till on Judgement Day they shall awake at last
    Did you notice?
    "Followed he the sun to view it's setting"
    He chased,followed and tracked the sun to see where it "Goes",what it does and how and where it disappears (Sets in).
    "Follow the Sun" is the key to success.
    And
    "All day long the horizons led him onward"
      Once he reached at the point from where he viewed the Sun setting in he then moved "forward" not back ward.
    But at this point he had few more tasks to complete.
    Now the question is where is such a point/place? Before i answer this let us now focus our attention to the task which was assigned earlier.
     Our task was to:
     Find out different possible routes from Egypt to Kiribati Islands via a place where the Sun was setting in.You may design any route no matter if it is long or short.The route may be by air,partially by land and partially by sea or entirely by sea  and entirely by land.
      These days we can travel either by : 
      • Air
        • land
        • Sea
        • Or we can make use of all the three stated modes of travel. i.e Air land and sea.
        •  
        Let us first see how we can reach Kiribati Islands by air  via a point where Dhul Qarnain viewed (would have viewed ) the sun setting in the west.

        Now let us keep map of the world before us.we can reach Kiribati Islands from two and opposite directions.
        1.With the sun   If we move in this direction our faces will be in the direction of the west.Our journey will be west wards.If we keep on traveling
        (flying) we will be closer and closer to the west and more and more away from the east.we will reach west first and thus there is every possibility that we will reach at the place where Dhul Qarnain viewed sun setting in the west.
                                                                         2.Against the sun.   Our faces will be towards the







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